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Sunday, November 02, 2008

The end of The Quest; or what's Wrong with a bit of faith alone?

From Roland Boer:
I hereby announce the official beginning of the first search for the 'historical Wrong'. Who is NT Wrong? In light of an increasing number of conversations, speculation over drinks (I know of at least one in Oslo), and teasing comments, this search is well overdue.

Well, I'm going to go all Bultmann on the quest (Bultmann to Boer's Strauss). Such a quest can be damaging for faith because if we knew who Wrong really was it would be damaging for all the good work done. We don't *need* to know who Wrong is historically speaking. All we need is the text we have: is that not good enough? Why do we *need* to know?

Actually, I'd like Wrong's identity to remain a mystery by SBL because it could be entertaining for Wrong going around and blogging etc with the speculation rife. Assuming the bishop is attenting (are you Wrong?).

Getting almost serious, there is something pretty impressive about someone managing to get such a spectacular reaction from bloggers over the liberal-conservative stuff and to be the topic of so many conversations in a variety of countries, nay continents (I'm pretty sure I was involved in the Oslo one mentioned by Roland, not to mention several others). Great are the mysteries of faith.

To add further, if I had to speculate, I'd say Wrong is an ordinary human being. Remarkable, certainly, but not capable of supernatural things. And just for the record, it isn't me (besides Wrong blogs too regularly and knows infinitely more about the Hebrew Bbile than me). I've been asked numerous times and it is the greatest compliment I've received but, alas, no. Don't get me wrong, I *wish* I'd have thought of the idea...

But ultimately we should praise the Wrong of faith, not the Wrong of history. Wouldn't we want Wrong living forever in our hearts and on our blogs than a mere historical figure doomed to the historical dustbin?

16 Comments:

Anonymous steph said...

I couldn't agree more. And the quest is a futile one, with questers are killjoys. Don't they understand faith? :-)

November 02, 2008

 
Anonymous Emanuel Pfoh said...

I agree as well. We already have traditions about Wrong. If you look for evidence of him in history, something's wrong with your faith. Here history is speechless, having the traditions making the only sound we hear.
:-)

November 02, 2008

 
Blogger Jim said...

oh i feel so superior these days... knowledge really is power!

;-p

November 03, 2008

 
Anonymous steph said...

it sure is:-)

November 03, 2008

 
Blogger John Lyons said...

Following my usual practice of Jesus Questing by ingnoring Jesus himself and looking instead at both the figures around him and the moderns interested in him, I find in this case I can do both at the same time. So I think we should launch an investigation - a mini-quest if you will - for Wrong's 'disciples' and his 'opponents' too.

Jim West - what does he really know? Is he just BIRGing? (and, a question I now wonder about, did many people know what Reimarus really thought?) Or is he Wrong himself?

Crossley - the denial, what do we think? What really happened in Oslo? What happened to the 'tapes' made of that meeting? Why has Ward Blanton never mentioned his involvement? I think we should be told!

His opponents, well, where do we begin?

And what do we make of the 'faithful'? Do they really think that modern man (sorry Steph), modern man (sod you, Bultmann), yeah, I'll say it again, modern man :) is really capable of accepting such a colossally important existential item without any evidence but a few web pages and an international furore. Hell, no. Wrong and mates, we/they are coming to get you!!!

(Of course, we won't know if we actually find you, but don't tell us that, o' clever one :)

November 03, 2008

 
Blogger John Lyons said...

And, last point, can I write for as long as the mythical Geoff Hudson when commenting on a Crossley blog post........?

Er, no!

November 03, 2008

 
Anonymous steph said...

I don't mind a bit, John. And any quest is doomed to failure. Those who know know because they were told, and those who don't, never will know. If they demand evidence like the Jesus mythers, they'll just go on and on and on like the mythical Geoff Hudson, talking to themselves.

November 03, 2008

 
Anonymous Roland said...

Now, the first question is whether that amazing post on biblioboggers counts as Wrong's sermon on the mount/plain or is his turn to 'Jerusalem'?

May Wrong live forever!

November 03, 2008

 
Anonymous roland said...

James, I first thought it was you, given your crossed swords with NT Wright, but after that I gave up. But I did hear (via Jorunn) that you had discussed it with Ward and her in the great city of Oslo. I must admit that I a man of little faith...

November 03, 2008

 
Blogger Geoff Hudson said...

There's only one guy who it could be. I've been studying him for years. He's not just NT Wrong. I think his hypothesis is that if he can convince everyone that his characters are genuine, then the writers of the NT could have done the same for their character Jesus. So where does that place a load of scholars?

November 03, 2008

 
Anonymous steph said...

James is not Wrong, Roland. Apart from their different appearances, James has a completely different style of writing and his typing is appalling. :-)

November 03, 2008

 
Blogger Geoff Hudson said...

Well you know then Steph, he's developing a distinguishing pot belly through spending too much time in front of his numerous computers. May be he's another one who was left out of games, and he feels he has to get his revenge by taking you all for a ride.

November 03, 2008

 
Blogger Jim said...

john, i only have one question- what's birging?

p.s.- yes i really do know. but i'll never tell. ever. a promise is a promise.

and steph- yes, james' typing really is horrendous!

;-)

November 04, 2008

 
Blogger John Lyons said...

BIRGing stands for "Basking in Reflected Glory", Jim. (For more info, see Lloyd Pieterson's essay in the 2005 volume New Directions in Qumran Study, edited by Jonathan Campbell, Pieterson and yours truly.)

As you say, Jim, knowledge is power, even just the tiny piece of knowledge that is the name gives you such power over us. Oh, if only you were in Boston... We could beat it out of you :)

BTW the Bishop could be in Chicago. It is the height of arrogance to assume that such a person is the 'property' of the SBL. AAR is just so much worthier, don't you think?

November 04, 2008

 
Anonymous steph said...

Well you know very well that's a purple trout John. Wrong is sooo unamerican, and he spells properly.

November 04, 2008

 
Blogger Geoff Hudson said...

But if you went to Oxford, you should know how to spell and speak English even if American. And haven't you heard his perfect Oxbridge English accent?

November 05, 2008

 

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