<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post8897318306896110478..comments</id><updated>2007-11-27T18:15:50.845Z</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Earliest Christian History: The problems with eyewitnesses</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/feeds/8897318306896110478/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html'/><author><name>James Crossley</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/10661575117163837659</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-5416032127581287456</id><published>2007-11-27T18:15:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-27T18:15:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>The most amazing thing about Bauckham's book is th...</title><content type='html'>The most amazing thing about Bauckham's book is the way it illustrates the incredibly low standards of Biblical scholarship.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Such a collection of ad hoc hypotheses, unevidenced assertions, circular reasoning and selective data would never be taken seriously , if the same standards of scholarship were presented in a scientific field.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/5416032127581287456'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/5416032127581287456'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1196187300000#c5416032127581287456' title=''/><author><name>Steven Carr</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-5380457407197095989</id><published>2007-11-27T07:15:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-27T07:15:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>It is standard Christian apologetic that eyewitnes...</title><content type='html'>It is standard Christian apologetic that eyewitnesses give different accounts of what happened.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Was there one woman present at this SBL session?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or two women?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or 3 women?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Or more than 4 women?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Eyewitnesses will vary in saying how many women were there at the SBL session.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Especially if you ask them 30 years after the events.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/5380457407197095989'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/5380457407197095989'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1196147700000#c5380457407197095989' title=''/><author><name>Steven Carr</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11983601793874190779</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-7128732894222739637</id><published>2007-11-27T06:17:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-27T06:17:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>Roger Aus: you should perhaps get hold of his work...</title><content type='html'>Roger Aus: you should perhaps get hold of his work and read it if you haven't already.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/7128732894222739637'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/7128732894222739637'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1196144220000#c7128732894222739637' title=''/><author><name>steph</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-7505076916672824569</id><published>2007-11-27T03:46:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-27T03:46:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>I noticed no one has commented on the most provoca...</title><content type='html'>I noticed no one has commented on the most provocative part of your paper, the relationship of gospel stories to haggadah. What was the name of the scholar you cited for that? I didn't catch it. But I thought that appealing to haggadah as a Jewish form of story invention creates an explanation that undercut Bauckham's objections and is not based on the form critical model with which he has such problems.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/7505076916672824569'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/7505076916672824569'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1196135160000#c7505076916672824569' title=''/><author><name>Randy</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16685689797122933262</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-1518220490475727691</id><published>2007-11-25T19:36:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-25T19:36:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>There is another possibility, and it is one I have...</title><content type='html'>There is another possibility, and it is one I have convinced myself about for a long time. The documents of the NT were not purely theological produced out of thin air, as West would seem to imply. They are expanded, edited and garbled versions of original documents written by eyewitnesses, and in the case of the Gospel of John possibly derived from a document written by the prophet himself. Indeed the extant texts have all the signs of having been through an extensive editorial process.  I cannot believe that the NT text we have did not have behind it a real Jewish prophet and that the original documents were written entirely in and for a Jewish culture. Prophets did signs, not miracles.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/1518220490475727691'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/1518220490475727691'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1196019360000#c1518220490475727691' title=''/><author><name>Geoff Hudson</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14724916983698195467</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8507848770076826580</id><published>2007-11-25T18:02:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-25T18:02:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>James, could you send me your paper?  I emailed yo...</title><content type='html'>James, could you send me your paper?  I emailed you to ask at your sheffield address and it got bounced back</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/8507848770076826580'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/8507848770076826580'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1196013720000#c8507848770076826580' title=''/><author><name>Danny Zacharias</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09819589295672075138</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-7007323444236644165</id><published>2007-11-25T03:32:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-25T03:32:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>Almost as frustrating as Tintin.  Did they get the...</title><content type='html'>Almost as frustrating as Tintin.  Did they get the gist?  Not really...</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/7007323444236644165'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/7007323444236644165'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1195961520000#c7007323444236644165' title=''/><author><name>steph</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-4224106238753894664</id><published>2007-11-25T02:18:00.000Z</published><updated>2007-11-25T02:18:00.000Z</updated><title type='text'>I've opined here:http://drjimwest.wordpress.com/20...</title><content type='html'>I've opined here:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://drjimwest.wordpress.com/2007/11/24/how-we-now-know-eyewitness-testimony-doesnt-exist/</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/4224106238753894664'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/8897318306896110478/comments/default/4224106238753894664'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html?showComment=1195957080000#c4224106238753894664' title=''/><author><name>Jim</name><uri>http://drjimwest.wordpress.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://earliestchristianhistory.blogspot.com/2007/11/problems-with-eyewitnesses.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14521325.post-8897318306896110478' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/14521325/posts/default/8897318306896110478' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>